Freedom Under Attack
When I first heard about the administration requiring Catholic organizations to provide services that were against their religious beliefs, I considered it an attack against the religion and wrote an article about it. Since then, I have thought more about the issue. I watched a talk show on TV where a Catholic priest and a Protestant minister gave their views on the subject. The minister really tweaked my thought process when she said that this issue was not about religion but about healthcare. That was a profound statement and it exposes what is in store for our country if ObamaCare is allowed to stand. Since then, I have heard others use the same argument that this is not about religion but about the health of women.
Think about it. What other actions do we do or don’t do that could be considered to have an impact on our health? What we eat, how much we weigh, what we drive, what temperature we set in our homes, what and how much we drink, and do we exercise are topics that immediately surface. Much like the “commerce clause” in our Constitution, nearly everything that the government wants to do, it somehow determines that the commerce clause applies and thus it has the authority. The same will apply with the healthcare law.
Remember that the then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said that we had to pass the bill to discover what was in it. Since that time, we have learned about many of the hidden aspects in the law and much of it is being pored over by bureaucrats as they determine what certain aspects mean and how they are going to implement them. Thus we have this first attack demanding that church affiliates must provide services that they deem against their religion. Freedom of religion as outlined in the First Amendment does not seem to bother those who are seeking more and more power.
Remember that Obamacare assumes one seventh of our economy and with that much power and control. Each time the government assumes more power, the people lose more freedom. Freedom lost is rarely ever regained.
Colonel Don Myers
USMC (ret.)
The sad thing here is that Obama is only the puppet, he is being controlled by the Soros’s of the world who want there to be a NEW World Order, one guiding set of laws and one type of money dictated by the one order it would control every country everyone would be the same…granted this would be difficult to convince those in Iran or China…etc…but the BIG picture here is that the USA will no longer dictate it’s own future….this may sound CRAZY but it is the road we are traveling down.
Unfortunately, those of us on this website and who read similar literature and arguments are not the ones who need to be convinced of the egregious malfeasance by this Pied Piper. The numbers are showing a 50% approval rating of late. That means his silver tongue is working once again to lead many of those down the path to voting for him again in 2012, scary thought, I admit. The problem is to convince many of those 50% that his words are only ambiguous verbage designed to masque his true agenda. It will be an uphill battle to convince those people to read between the lines or we will all be destined to more of this ON STEROIDS since he knows it will be his last 4 years to get things done. God be with us!!!!
OBAMA IS THE REASON OUR FOUNDERS OF THE CONSTITUTION STATED HE MUST BE A CITIIZEN NATURAL BORN. THIS ILLEGAL, MUSLIM, LIAR, IS FOLLOWING THE KORAN. LIE, LIE, LIE, IF NECESSARY TO GET WHAT YOU NEED. HE IS BANKRUPTING THIS COUNTRY, SUBVERTING THE CONSTITUTION, BY SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE ALONG WITH THE BILL OF RIGHTS. THE CONFEDERACY OF FOOLS WHO LACKED THE COMMON SENSE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR NATION GOT CHANGE ALRIGHT. THE CHANGE THEY RECEIVED IS UNEMPLOYMENT, THE BLAME GAME, SUBVERTING OUR CONSTITUTION, AND BLAME THE DEMOCRATS WHO WANT TO DO AWAY WITH IT, FAST AND FURIOUS, GREEN ENERGY, GAS PRICES, REFUSING CANADIAN OIL PIPE LINE JOBS, THIS ILLEGAL, MUSLIM,LIAR, WHO SPENT ALL OF 176 DAY IN THE SENATE AND YOU FOOLS VOTED HIM IN. HIDDEN IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL, IF YOU SELL YOUR HOUSE YOU WILL PAY 2% OF THE SALE. HE HAS YET TO HOLD ERIC HOLDER RESPONSIBLE FOR FAST AND FURIOUS. GOD HELP ALL OF THE ELECTORATE WHO WANTED CHANGE AND THEY GOT IT FOR THEIR GRAND KIDS AND THEIR CHILDREN, CHILDREN. IF THESE SAME FOOLS VOTE THIS ILLEGAL INTO OFFICE AGAIN THEY WILL BE FLUSHING THE USA DOWN THE DRAIN.
USA along with New Zealand state that they are democracies, bull I will give my determination of Democracy
Government by the people;a form of government in which the supreme power is lodged in the hands of the people
collectively,or in which the people exercise the powers of legislation. To give an example in NZ, they have conscience votes, can abstain. must vote for the party, or take leave of the house,represent us baloney.Its party vote all the way and to hell with the public.
That is why we hace choices. No one is forcing anyone to work for a religious institution. No one is denying anyone the right to use contraception, they just do not want to pay for it. Women can still get prescriptoins from their doctors, but it will be their RESPONSIBILITY to pay for it. Since when is birth control a right to be paid for by the tax payer or any other institution. Obamas “compromise” is just a gimmick, if the insurance co. Has to pay for the contraception, who do you think will pay for it? The insurance co. Will just pas the costs back onto the religious in the form of increased premiums, who will be still be paying for it. This presidential decision is not only illegal, he does not have the power, only congress does. In his own words 98% of women use some form of birth control!! He just blew his own argument that he is doing this because women have access problems to obtain birth control. If that is the case why do we need this law!!!!!
Is anyone surprised by this? I’m not.
Why should employers, even churches, be given the right to deny the rights of their employees? What if a Christian Scientist buys your company? Are you prepared to be denied ALL medical care?
The American electorate doesn’t think very often but they should give this some thought.
To Russ,
in response to your comment “Why should employers, even churches, be given the right to deny the rights of their employees? What if a Christian Scientist buys your company? Are you prepared to be denied ALL medical care?”
If my company gets bought out by anyone that does not allow medical care, they are not taking away my rights, they are only making me choose. If I believe I need medical care, then I will need to find a new job that will allow me to have medical care, and they will have to find others that will work under their conditions. The Catholics are not taking away any right, just believing it is wrong in their religion to pay for it. From what I have seen so far, any woman can still get birth control but have to pay for it themselves. At one time we all had to pay for all of our health care on our own. It is not easy to leave a job and find a new one, but it is still a choice.
Ted Nugent nailed this whole scenario in this simple little illustration. ” If a rabid coyote is in your living room attacking and biting everybody, don’t be mad at the coyote, YOU LET HIM IN.” That suffices to say that all of you people who lack brain neurons in order to make intelligent decisions, YOU are responsible for letting the rabid Kenyan in the house. You cannot fault OJUDASS, he is merely doing what his nature dictates. YOU allowed him entry. YOU are responsible for the damage done to our beloved nation. YOU are being held liable for your ignorant error. And it’s YOU that the rest of we Americans will seek out should we lose our nation. YOU had better figure out a way to rid America of this charlatan. After all YOU let him into OUR house. Now you need to remove him and if you prefer YOU may leave with him. There are 53% of you boneheads that coronated him. That means when you walk down the street 1 out of every 2 people you meet voted for this usurper. Blacks used great logic in voting for him, all that mattered was his skin color. Good sound reasoning !?!?!? Whites voted for him because basically they’re just plain stupid and suffer from white guilt ! All of you brain dead people had better get your poop in a group before November and get this mad man out of office. There has been too much blood spilt and too many lives sacrificed for this nation to allow this piece of feces to destroy what those brave men and women gave to insure that we would live in liberty and freedom. And we Patriots WILL NOT stand idly by and let it be destroyed by someone who isn’t even an American.
AMEN!!!
I think that Don missed something, or he was dropped on his head when a baby. The Catholic Church did not go out looking for this. They are not going after our government, but quite obviously the other way around. And please read our constitution, our government does not have the right to tell the Catholic Church to provide these things.
And to Perry. What an observant fellow you are. Does history show us that EVERYTHING is ALWAYS better the further we advance in time? We sure as hell weren’t in debt to the tune of 15 Trillion $ 100 years ago.
“If you give up your liberty for security, you will lose both liberty and security.” Thomas Jefferson. Beware, Americans, Obama is acting like a criminal who is stealing both of these ideals. Let’s follow the Constituation and get him out of office for going against the very documents written for our country. He has scammed this country via his followers, which, sadly, are our fellow Americans.
Barry Soetoro A/K/A Barrack Obama has an agenda and that is to destroy the United States by wrecking the economy of this country. First of all, he should not even be president since he was born in Africa, not a legal citizen, passes himself off with a false name. His agenda is Muslim driven, and he is a agent of a foreign country.
Not only should he be impeached, he should be arrested and tried for treason, and Nancy Pelose and Harry Reid right along with him
BINGO YOU NAILED IT! CUDEOS
Let’s get some pitchforks, torches, and rope and string ‘em up!
I could not have said it better. GOD BLESS the U.S.A.!!!!!!!!!!!
The bigger issue here is not religion or healthcare, it is abuse of power. Be it Obama’s czars with reasonably unlimited power in their respective areas without oversight or passing overbroad legislation like Obamacare which gives Congress it believes, almost total leaway under the guise of the Commerce Clause. We have evolved to our detriment, into a people governed by an entrenched oligarchy, not beholden to those who elected them who have and exercise the power to exempt themselves from much of the burdensome legislation they foist on the masses; to wit: Congress is exempt from Social Security laws so that they can retire after 6 years regardless of their age at the time on full pay; they have their own medical care therefore they excepted themselves from Obamacare; their aids have student loans forgiven after the 6th. year of service; and they exempted themselves from insider trading SEC rules so that to a person, they, their staffs and advisors can trade on insider information and as such all seem to be able to grow their net worths each year totally disproportionally to their salaries. The list just goes on and on.
The problem goes much deeper than the current controversy about religious beliefs on contraception. This is death by a thousand cuts– Obama’s people with reach a “compromise” with the Bishop’s Council which will be heralded by Obama as tacit approval by the Church of the balance of Obama care.
The more that people become supported by the gov’t. the less likely real change and return to a Constitutional system will be. We are dangerously close now to becomming a one party country which assumes the voting citizen is a moron who needs to be cared for cradle to grave. The pathetic part is the old adage: Be careful what you wish for– it may come true— my complaint is that I may end up burdened with what the pro-Obama blind legions have wished for!! “God save us all– everyone!”
Nothing new in all this, this is what communists always do. But I’m glade you people have finally woke up.
this is not a communist concept it is a socialist one . WAKE UP AMERICA
Obama is in the, “This is what I think mode” (socialism), instead of the “We The People mode” ! This is just another way to tell everyone he is not qualified to run this country properly as a real American & President should ! Read his book, he tells you right off, he is not a Natural Born American by telling the whole world that his father was from Kenya & had his passport revolked & could not come to the USA. In order to become President, both parents must be USA Citizens at birth on American soil ! OBUMMER is unfit & unqualified to hold the office of President of the USA. Now his Democrat friends that have been backing him are also in trouble due to letting him & pushing him into Presidency ! Obama also keeps saying we are a Democracy & we are not ! Recite the Plege of Allegiance ! We Are A Republic of 50 states formed & bound together to form the United States.
Father of a Fallen Hero,
Uncle of a Fallen Hero,
28 yr Disabled Veteran.
G. W. Qualls
Many thanks for pointing out that Obama is NOT a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ as required by the Constitution. Ironically, John Sidney McCain, III was vetted on April 10, 2008 by Mrs. MCCaskill, Mr. Leahy, Mr. Obama, Mr. Coburn, Mrs. Clinton, and Mr. Webb. A Resolution saying that he was a natural born citizen was put forth as: Text of S. Res. 511 (110): A resolution recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen. Since Mr. McCain was vetted and a resolution was put forth recognizing his constitutional eligibility to be President, why wasn’t Mr. Obama vetted? Why didn’t John McCain raise this issue during the 2008 election? Why didn’t Mrs. Clinton, who was running against Mr. Obama, raise this issue? Am I the only one who thinks there are a lot of things going on that perhaps us Americans should know about?
Totally agree!!!
Mother of a wounded soldier, Afghnistan 9-11-2006, still active duty Army
Daughter of retired Air Force dad
Sister of retired Air Force brother
thank you G W for serving our country and thank you to your family members I am saddened to hear about your son and nephew, once again thank you.
sincerly kevin graul son of a world war 2 vet.
“I am less concerned about what government can do for me than what it can do to me.” – Will Rogers
I called my Congresswoman’s office three days after she had voted for passage of Obamacare to get some clarification on its provisions. As one of her aides put it, “I don’t think that Congresswoman Berkeley will be able to answer your questions as she hasn’t yet read the bill.”
Since I normally attempt to view issues from a “common sense” basis – rather than an emotional one, I had to ask myself two questions. First, if I attempted to submit a paper without doing the necessary research – whether in grammar school, high school or college, I would have received an appropriate “F”. Why should we have any lesser standard for those we elect to serve us? Second, if this bill is so all-fired fantastic, why have the members of Congress chosen to exempt themselves, the President and a bunch of others from being able to enjoy its benefits?
Be Very Afraid-”First they came for *** ” .You can fill in the rest according to how much OB and the rest want to take over our lives. We must vote him and Pulosi and Reid out before the country goes to he–.
Birth control is not being denied to anyone. You can walk into any pharmacy or get a prescription from your physician for your preferred form of birth control. You would, of course, pay for it out of pocket. What a novel thought. We’.ve evolved into a gimmie, gimmie society.
No one is saying that the services would not be available, the issue is that Obama, as the Federal Government, wants to force others to provide it to their employees & customers and at the institution’s expense. It’s rather like saying “I’d like to eat caviar”, a response might be “ok, go ahead and buy it”, but in this case the answer is, “well then you shall have it…at our expense”.
The people are fed up with Obama and our Congress. If he is reelected in 2012 , the following quotes come to mind from Thomas Jefferson which are:
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” — Thomas Jefferson
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson
The latter will most likely happen.
Since when does the Catholic Church dictate public policy. They can’t keep their own priests under control. Many Catholics would be unable to take advantage of basic needs if these demands were met. Catholics, leave my government alone. Seperation of Church and State!!
All in all I think your observation of the current situation is fool hardy and very off base, but then I believe you have the right to say what you feel. But you are either very young and have not experienced the joy of making it in this country or feeling pride in your accomplishments.. Intitlements only encourage the government to take more and more feedoms from you until you become an autobot and they just wipe you office the face of the earth just for drooling out the corner of your mouth while playing your inane computer games..
“Separation of church & state” is NOT in the Constitution ! Never was, Never will be…You show your ignorance of the Founding Fathers faith in God & Jesus Christ & the BIBLE. They stated ONLY Christians were qualified to govern because they had the principles to stand for what is right !!! Our present situation, perpetrated by godless self seeking men have put this country in jeopardy ! The Founding Fathers NEVER advocated separating the Christian faith from government, quite the opposite. A Republic cannot endure in the hands of godless men…
Oh shut up Don, it’s called freedom of religion. And that freedom gives you the right not to beleive, which is fine BUT “Your Government” has no right to push something that is against the beleif of the church, or any individual for that fact, if it is against their beleifs. Again you have the right to not beleive, but don’t you impose or try to refuse the rights of people that do beleive. I for one beleive in contraceptives, and I also beleive in God, but thats my beleifs and my choices, If its the church’s beleifs not to, its not for you OR “your inferior government” to impose it on them.
AMEN
No such thing in the Constitution as ‘Separation of Church and State’ ! This is what the Constitution does say: Amendment I. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” All those years ago, those brave souls who came here on boats with their families for two basic reasons, they wanted Individual Freedom and Freedom of religion. Many of the signers of our Constitution were ministers. Our Capital Building doubled as a church on Sundays for more than 50 years. Please go to Youtube and view some of Historian David Barton’s videos, including Capital Tours. Additionally, the first Bible in America was written by Congress and meant to be taught in our schools. It is pretty awesome to learn the REAL History of our nation. We all need to seek TRUTH. May God bless America and Israel forever!
Hello! Did you miss civics class? No one claims that the words “Separation of Church and State” appear in the Constitution, it is merely a phrase to describe what “Congress shall pass no laws…” represents. It came from a desire to avoid the situation in England, where the official religion was the “Church of England” and those who did not agree were persecuted by the government. What the constitution says…and means, is that there shall be no official “Government backed” religion, and nothing the government does shall promote or persecute people based on their religion. Which is to say, they shouldn’t now be forcing individuals, or institutions to go against their own religious beliefs, because that is, in essence, promoting the alternative viewpoint. How would you feel if, instead, the issue was banning the use or sale of contraceptives? Would you like that? It sounds to me like the same issue in reverse.
You people are living in the dark ages.
The body is not the person. The “person” is the soul that incarnates in a body for the purpose of spiritual evolution/development/growth. The state of full growth is the state of Enlightenment. This state cannot be gained in one life, so after the body it incarnated in dies, it incarnates in another and this keeps on happening until it no longer needs to. Do the necessary research on karma and reincarnation.
Obamacare MUST be repealed and the Dictator Obama MUST go. Whatever it takes!!!
Without going into a diatribe about this part of the bill or that part of the bill, just understand and realize something here. Would you sign a contract for anything without first reading it? Of course you wouldn’t. The same goes for Obamacare. Why would Nancy Pelosi make the idiotic statement “you have to pas the bill so you can see what’s in it.” I mean, talk about gonads! And, the really sad part is that Congress went along with it.
How much more proof does anyone need to understand what’s going on here. America’s liberties and freedoms are being stolen from us one plank at a time. When we lose all of our freedoms, is that when America will rise up and demand their freedoms back? Not going to happen. Like the article quoted “freedoms lost are rarey ever regained.” How much more big govt intrusion and lying to the American people are we going to take from this criminal cabal in Washington, D.C.? It’s past time America to start fighting this mischief going on. It’s past time to take the gloves off and stop being PC, as it will only end up frustrating you and your efforts. Don’t play their game. Tell the truth! We all know Obama is a fraud, all we need to do to prove that is get his a** in a court of law and make him prove who he says he is. He’s not done it because he knows that would be his Waterloo.
I pray that Joe Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse can come up with enough evidence to force Obama’s hand. We cannot let this fraudulent administration continue on. They are a direct national security threat to our country.
Nancy Pelosi made that idiotic statement, First, because she is an idiot and Second, every Democrat is an idiot just like her, as a matter of fact there are quite a few Republicans that are complete idiots also!
The powers to be should be under the same health care as the rest of us , then you will see change but not until then. This is what we should fight for. They are not special beings. You can complain all you want but until everyone is equal you will never see the change that is needed in this country. We need to start fresh in 2012.
It’s all about freedom and how Obama/Pelosi/Reid have determined you don’t really need it, and you therefore shall not have it.
Hear what Peter Schiff has to say about the subject….his analogies are ones that even a liberal can love… to hate. Don’t tread on me!
Enjoy!
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Whose the culprit? wheres the source? What is the source? What is the well that spews foul water up from hell? How long has this been going on? Why does it yield death, hate, deception, lies, and infiltrates ever organ of the political body and institution of our Country? Why does it hate all religions, races and cultures except it’s own? Need I go on? The evil beast that devourers every thing good and decent is none other than “JUDAISM There Satanic Bible is the “TALMUD.” They occupy our Government. They hate Christianity with a vengeance and has nearly deleted it from our culture. That’s it baby, now you have the truth. This venom is not the Jewish race. It is totally about choice. Jesus and his Jewish followers had no venom in them. Judaism is satanic and diabolically goes contrary to father Abraham. Abraham must be rolling over in his grave.
This is about religious freedom AND Healthcare AND Power. People working at a “religious” institution are fully aware of affiliations and ramifications as this IS discussed during interviews. Most churches are clear on positions and staff hence know what is expected. Birth control is elective. Ah, but…
Women, how many of your GYN’s have been truthful and upright with you about the negative effects of BC on your body. Other than stroke if smoking and increased breast cancer, what other negative are you told? Did you know BC is attributed to many, many women’s IBS and or ciliac desease? Did you know BC is attributed to colon as well as vaginal yeast infections that may never go away? Do you really know the harm BC can do to your body? This being said, there are times that BC is used as a interventiona medical treatment and should be allowed under medical protocol to control endometriosis and other harmful situations.
Back in my early days of work, I used BC for medical purposes, not to inhibit birth. I had to pay full fare and then dispute every month the denial to get reimbursed. There as a day only 20 years ago where BC was not covered under any Health Policy. I believe our youth have much lack of this fact.
This is also about PBO’s control. He needs to control everything to get ObamaCare to function as well as conincide with NDAA, which if Israel, Iran, the USA and Europe engage in war as anticipated, I think PBO will use NDAA to potentially cancel elections. Realize NDAA allows PBO and every future POTUS the ability for military and totalitarian rule.
We need to get going in our grass roots level, and we need to ensure every level of government from local to DC is fully aware of “We the People” and “our” views to better represent us while definitely adhering to the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I believe you hit the nail on the head!! NDAA is for the upcoming election.
So, what about the right of the individual employee of these religious organization businesses(non-profit-ish)? Should we give an employer the right to decide the services your health care provider can offer? I see a lot of commentary on different parts of the world where religions make the rules and here this same activity is being defended. Seperation of church and state. Freedom under attack? Freedom of whom I ask? None of the above, 2012.
If it is the employer that is paying for the health insurance, why shouldn’t he be the one that determines what he is willing to pay for? Does an employee have a right to demand what healthcare services the employer shall pay for? Surely if an employee is unhappy with the level of coverage provided by the employer, they can choose not to work there or pay for those additional services themselves.
I firmly believe that Obama is not an idiot, but rather an extremely savvy political operative. As such Obama couldn’t care less about religious freedom, or the “concession” he made. What he is interested in is slowly and deliberately chipping away at the rights granted to us under the Constitution and replacing them with rights that he and his fellow elites deem we should have. They already utilize the taxation system to reward or punish certain groups within the population. As we have seen with the healthcare mandate waivers, much the same behaviour will happen if and when Obamacare comes into play. That will make it so much easier to win re-election time after time, thus keep their snouts firmly embedded in the public trough while they continue to regulate us (not them) as to how we should live our lives, what we should believe in and what we can say and think.
Can anyone tell me where Obama gets the authority to mandate what “free” services a company has to provide? And are people really that stupid to believe that the cost of such services will not be spread across the premiums of the rest of us, whether we want it or believe in it?
The Constitution was written to restrict what government could do to the rights God gave us, it was not written to allow government to give or withhold rights.
It’s about neither — it’s about Obama’s unquestionable thirst for power — almost dictatorial in the same manner that his narcissism, he is always right (in his own mind) and can never be wrong… it is his one weakness and as such, it may be the way to bring him down. In his unscrupulous bid for a “President” (like iChavez is a “president” because it sounds more pleasing to the ear than does supreme leader (both of which he’s not), dictator or president for life (Idi Amin’s ruthless dictatorship). He’s on a power grab and whaat he cannot write in his “Executive Orders/Privileges,” he THREATENS Congress to pas his bills, or else he’ll withhold Social Security payments, Medicare payments and any other system that serves the taxpayer. Note thaat when he threatened, he DID NOT mention welfare, SSI or anything else that would affect his potential voter base — the poor, the disenfranchised illegals and undocumented workers — because while “defender of the middle class” he’s squeezing us too hard. Separation of Church and State is a basis for Constitutional powers — and he wants it all. A lethargic and corrupt Congress gives away Congressional authority and thus has failed to serve the people over their special interests. The Supreme Court has rulings which have yet to be heard on the Constitutionality of Obamacare and it does not appear to be as corrupt as either the presidency or Congress.
It’s apparent by his birthright that he was not born as an American citizen, yet who in government is responsible for vetting this person to be eligible to run for president. If he had nothing to hide, when then does he spends millions trying to block proof of his rancid presidency. The man and his family spend like the Fed belongs to him and he ought to be able to reward Chicago politicians and lobbyists who helped bring him to power. Attacking religious institutions while disregarding Islamic’s “right to practice civil disobedience” and thus not even pay attention to his power grab, still has the audacity to go after the Catholics.FIRST, shows his lack of depth. He may be a brilliant narcissist, but he is a narcissist to the core.
How did a devout Muslim at Harvard Law become a Christian in such a short time? The Muslim Brotherhood and other fringe organizations support, contribute and are his “strong-arm” army of befuddled fools who do his bidding. Quite frankly, he has disgraced the office that he holds and should be impeached. Those whom vetted him should be arrested for treason, and all who voted for Obabacare mad to read it from page one to the very end, outlining all areas which are unconstitutional.
Let’s make 2012 the end of an ERROR.
Very well said.
I served under Eisenhower, Kennedy,Johnson, and Nixon, and lived under the rest. I have watched the nation go from right to left and in between, but never so far left as it has been taken now. In spite of the great failures of socialism and communiisim with whiichwe are confronted, there are still those who try to defy the truth of those failures and insist they they know better. The Middle Ages are at hand once again. If we do not rise to the occassion in this next election we whall surely suffer the same fate. We will have a king in the castle and his court will be rule inside the great walled city and the serfs willo bring in the labor of their hands and be taxed to support the royalty and their lifestyles. and the great disease of the nose will again reign supreme. They all shall be infected with the same shared mark. Then once again, there will be change either to the right or to total deprivation. God willing and the people vote the latter won’t happen.
Thank you for your service!
Thank You,Sir,for Your service. Your words I read LIMA CHARLIE.
I have always believed that standing on a soap box encourages people to want to knock you off of it. I have learned that by mingling in the crowd and talking about an issue such as this requires people to think. Most people I talk to don’t really think about the issue, instead they either have a preconceived notion if they even know what is going on or heard a point of view that they can agree with without knowing the nuts and bolts of the issue at hand. I don’t think most people are what some may call stupid, instead lets call it for what it is, ignorance. Most people are trying to get kids off to school, get to work, take care of all the things they need to do and do not have the time to poke around the internet searching for truth, so ignorance is not a dirty word. Like the powers that be don’t know this, how else could they have gotten away with all that’s happened over the years. We as a people have for to long trusted in our government, and then throw the political parties into the mix and all hell breaks loose, lets polarize the country some more, lets divert the attention elsewhere so they can decide what’s best for us. (when in fact it seems it’s best for them)
So I say this, I am not an intellectual, nor a student of politics but a guy who has had enough, enough to get anyone to challenge me for the sake of telling me what’s good for me or my family. Don’t tell me because of my beliefs I am some how inferior or closed minded to what the flavor of the day is. Instead listen, because I along with millions of people are at the point of expressing ourselves in a way some may call radical, call it what you want, we are not laying down to these policies which have been taking away our rights for decades. It is time to stand up and get in the fight.
Just my humble opinion
Good comments sir. However, I will take issue with you on one of your points. That being — “. . .and do not have the time to poke around the internet searching for truth. . .”
Well, Americans need to make time to find the truth. If Americans are too busy with their everyday affairs, what are they going to do when they’ve lost ALL their liberties? Everyday affairs won’t matter much at that point in time.
Just my opinion and observation.
Thanks.
I totally agree with you, I was just trying to say people don’t make the time and they should, I should have worded it differently, sorry about that.
I am right there with you brother!
worded exactly as it should b obamma scares the ‘hell into’ me…….. always has
It has NEVER been about healthcare. It’s about taking TOTAL CONTROL over the American People. You either work in the healthcare field or are a patient or both. Ronald Reagan said in 1961: “One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. Most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can’t afford it”. We miss you Ronnie, and your WISDOM.
Amen!!
It is about freedom, not about healthcare. We do not automatically deserve to have our insurance provided for us by an employer. That is a benefit that is offered to us in lieu of more money. Because the company can purchase insurance in bulk, this service costs them less to offer to employees than it would cost the employee to purchase for themselves. No employer should have to offer insurance to an employee that violates the employer’s moral values. If the employee desires this coverage anyway, the employee should purchase their own supplemental rider to provide it for themselves.
I hate to tell you, but many employers since the inception of Obamacare, are either dropping healthcare or are lowering the standards of the healthcare they are offering. Since the start of the Obamacare bill, insurance rates have gone through the roof rather than what it was suppose to do, make healthcare affordable. Obamanomics is out for nothing but large Government, Big Businesses, & OPEC. If it has anything to do with knocking out the middle class, Obama’s all for it.
This “New” mandate is really about the power being used by our leadership be it the President, the Senate or Congress. f we have to have it passed in order to know what the new law is, then we can be assured that someone wants MORE power over the people like a dictator has.
Connie Carter: You missed the whole point of the above article: If the Gov’t can demand that “religious people” give up a belief held for 2,000 years, in order to obey their rules, then, they can demand ANYTHING from you in the name of “HealthCare”!! They may outlaw M&M’s, all fast food, tell you that you don’t need that pace-maker, just take a pain pill, as Obama famously told a lady about her mother…they can twist things around to justify practically ANYTHING in the name of “It is good for your health.” They could outlaw Driving, it’s better to Walk, isn’t it?! Better Health! Wake up and smell the coffee, before they outlaw it!
It’s not about women’s health, it’s about paying for something that can be interpreted as elective. No one is saying you have to take birth control or that you can’t take it if YOU pay for it yourself. I really believe people think this bill is going to be totally paid for by the gov’t. And they don’t equate the taxpayer fuels the gov’t. We will all be paying more and getting less for it.
It is about the constitution….the president does not like the way it stops him from RULING without control!!
I don’t think it is about healthcare at all. It is about the government ( Obama) wanting to control every aspect of our lives. He has a welfare mind and he wants everybody else to have one. I , myself, am so tired of this wrangling between the democrats and republicans. They should all do what is right for everyone, not their party. People will soon tire of this and rise up and there will be hell for all.
The fighting between Republican and Democrat is nothing more than show for the rest of us. Seriously when has there ever been a real, honest to goodness bust up between them. Look at the farce about reducing spending, after all of the drama what did we get, a reduction of $35 billion over 10 years. The joke that was battling against raising the debt ceiling last year, all of it for show with absolutely no real substance at the end of it!! Do you honestly believe that if the Republicans managed to gain control of both houses and the Presidency, or even just the two houses that they would actually repeal Obamacare? They might water it down a little, but I am confident the essence of the whole thing would remain. The power that it gives to the professional politician is just too damn tempting for them to give up!
99.9% of politicians make the rest look bad!!
No, it is not solely about healthcare: it is about power and control. It is about the government more and more insinuating itself into the fabric of our lives and slowly wresting away our freedoms.
The 2012 election had been gearing up to be one about the economy and jobs. Jobs, jobs. In that regard, the Obama administration was desperate to change the subject. The irony is, that the economy may be on the rebound, in spite of the administration’s poor policies. But in their effort to divert attention from the economy with their ruling on compelled abortion on demand, they have reopened the glaring tyranny of Obamacare, that is now clearly apparent to all Americans, which is a viscous attack not just on our freedom of religion, a founding principle grounded in our constitution, but on freedom itself.
The economy is always on the rebound during an election cycle. When are Americans going to stop believing in the BS. The commies know they can’t run on Obama’s record, so, now, all of a sudden, the economy’s on an upswing? Give me a break. LIES, LIES, LIES!
I have been very vocal about my opinion of this illeagle president. I believe to speak out against him will eventually be comperable to the Jews in Natzi Germany, I truly believe our lives are on the line, with that being said, this man is the very definition of abomination or Obamination, I feel the words are interchangeable. If it is the last words Ispeak I will Let people know this man is out to distroy our country.
AMEN!
If you are willing to give up what little freedom the government hasn’t taken away yet, then it is about Health Care, not the loss of Religious Freedom. Still haven’t figured out how “elective” birth control is being considered a health issue unless you are willing to let the government in on your decision, thereby giving up a little more of that liberty and freedom.
Colonel, you are so right! I love the way the left makes it out to be that if the Church doesn’t provide this coverage, then women will have no where else to go!! WRONG!! They have never been given this coverage, and they have been surviving. If someone doesn’t like the way the coverage is at their current employer, they can find another job. There are other places to get Contraceptives. You are right to say that once a freedom is lost, it is rarely regained.
@ Connie it’s about the government controlling our lives! We are supposed to be a free country but if they tell you that they’re doing it under the guise of helping provide a service, it should be voluntary and NOT mandantory. What do think a mandate is!
Obama is without a doubt moving this country toward being a nation of obedient cattle. He has no respect for freedom….of health, religion, jobs, financial, and now reproductive. He wants us to all do and believe the same things. Obama is a danger to our country in do many ways..by not enforcing illegal immigration laws, giving our money away to his tune,not ours.
I agree that freedom lost is rarely ever regained. Also, is you don’t use it, you lose it. There are so many ways the “Washington” group are stealing from the people who elected them. Our money should not be going to other countries for other than humanitarian relief. Not should the congress be paving their future on our money, never using social secutiry, or paying for their health care. It is not just the congress, but federal employees as a whole.
Who would have believed that we, as a nation, would so quickly have departed from our senses and started down a path from which there may be no return? I feel that violent revolution may be in the offing in order to regain any prospect of continued freedom in these here United States Of America.
* RON PAUL * R3VOLTION * 2012 *
I agree–it’s about health care, NOT religion.
It is not about health care it is about taking away our freedom one piece at a time. Before you know it you are not free any more.
Its shameful Connie wants to throw away the freedoms our forefathers paid for with their blood…
Since when is sex, and the prevention of babies an illness?
You’re right when you say that it isn’t about religion. It about FAITH.